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Team Zyte
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19:56 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Hello everyone!
  
  It has been a while since the last time I released a feature, as I have sticked with bug fixing for some time.
  
  However, recently I wanted to correct the phenomenon of so called DP Trading or DP Farming. That has never been a thing I intended to the game, and I have over the years made it more and more difficult to benefit from.
  
  There is however naturally a reason why teams would do it anyways. And that is lack of income.
  
  I have therefore decided to push through a feature I have had it mind for a long time:
  
  Sponsors!
  
  In the feature, your team can sign different sponsors.
  
  You will receive a new sponsorship proposal once a week that you can accept or decline.
  
  Each sponsorship will have a given length (counted in game-days), a reward and a maximum of sponsors allowed.
  
  This means that you have to make the right decisions when you decide which sponsors you want to accept.
  
  Some beneficial sponsors will only allow that you have one other sponsor. They are so-to-say "main sponsors". Other sponsors give you smaller benefits and all multiple other sponsors. By signing a long term sponsorship contract with "main sponsor", you may lose out on other beneficial sponsorship proposals.
  
  All sponsors do though have in common that they contribute to the wealth of a team. It's not only a matter of money, but also equipment, etc.
  
  I will not reveal all the types of sponsorships yet, and I will be adding more along the way. It is always interesting to see the community figuring out on its own.
  
  Some of you may have guessed this feature was coming, as game admin Schiavi di Don posted this as a hint in the Suggestions section:
  
  http://www.cyclingsimulator.com/forum/suggestions/382081
  
  I want to thank everyone for their contributions to company names, and please keep the thread going to have even more. Remember to keep it fictional.
  
  The sponsorship feature is certainly a "version 1". It will be expanded a lot more in the future. Suggestions are always welcome, but I have things in mind like:
  
  - Race results may influence the frequency of how often you get a new sponsorship proposal
  - Certain events trigger (or has a chance to trigger) a new sponsorship proposal, i.e. winning a tour, a classic, signing a rider, training a rider to a certain AV, etc.
  - Like with the talent feature, you can do upgrades to reduce the amount of waiting time between each sponsorship proposal. Something similar could be introduced for sponsors.
  
  
  I hope you all like this new feature and this new income.
  
  At this point, sponsorships are equal for all teams, whereas I see this feature as an option that allows more upwards movement from the lower ranked teams.
  
  Enjoy!
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick





Vaduz
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Posted at:
20:01 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
Status: Online

  Thanks for adding this feature, looking forward to see how this plays out!
  
team futerko
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Posted at:
20:01 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 28/8-2016
Status: Online

  sweet - thank you Nick!
Universal Soup
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Posted at:
20:05 6/3-2020 GMT

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  signed my first deal! nice work Nick.
Lokomotíva Zvolen
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Posted at:
20:07 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 23/7-2014
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  Helleman Aero Company
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 2.000 $ per day.
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Days left: 35
  
  
  Thanks! I may as well release the 6 slaves I have. :)
Vaduz
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Posted at:
20:08 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
Status: Online

  Where do the deals come in?
Universal Soup
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20:08 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Team -> Sponsors
  
  Nice Pierre :)

Last edit by Universal Soup at 20:09 6/3-2020.

Vaduz
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Posted at:
20:11 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Thanks! This will certainly impact the economics of the game, 70k in 35 days is already more than I make racing
Lokomotíva Zvolen
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Posted at:
20:13 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Friedrich, yes, it is possible that the prices of riders will go up.
Universal Soup
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20:14 6/3-2020 GMT

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  And you can have 3 of them with some luck, i guess, at the same time. Unless they don't form randomly.
Spin Doctors
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Posted at:
20:14 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/6-2015
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  Great news. Thank you Nick!
  
  Casino Online
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 2.000 $ per day.
  Duration: 35 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3
  
  Seems good to accept. I guess will be tricky in a week as accepting would mean potentially missing out on a ‘main sponsor’ for a weeks.
nonnies
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Posted at:
20:14 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Shweet !!
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
20:30 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

   Official Wildcard Post
  
   This sponsorship proposal gives your team 8.000 $ per week.
  
   Duration: 21
   Max sponsors: 3
  
  
   Days left: 21
  
  Guess its 24.000$, just need another 5k to buy a oldie dude from HL. Thanks Nick!
DZWF
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Posted at:
20:30 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Nice company name! Great feature
  
  DP Trading
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 4
  
  
  Days left: 35
Goege Team
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Posted at:
20:33 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/7-2018
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  Zyte
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team a one-time payment of 100.000 $ instantly.
  
  Duration: 90 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3
Fighting
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Posted at:
20:38 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/7-2013
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  Hey, Nick, thank you for the communication! Brings lower my saltiness after the DP trading episode :).
  
  This is what I like in this game, features that help everyone out. I know you don't always have the necessary time for the game, so appreciate it. Thank you!
Vaduz
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Posted at:
20:38 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
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  Looks like somewhere between 1k and 2k per day and sponsor so far. So with 3 sponsors that would be 450k per season, surely a big influx of cash. And incidentally what could be earned full time dp trading for a season.
Fighting
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Posted at:
20:40 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/7-2013
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  Yes, love it :).
  
  My proposal:
  
  Red Balloon Travel Agency
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 4
  
  I don't know if I should accept it or not :))
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
20:45 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Nice one Goege, yeah buciu go on, mine is even less than that, but will help. You have another 4 sponsors under that deal
Fighting
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Posted at:
20:46 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Yes, that inclines me to accept
  
  Nice Goege :)

Last edit by Fighting at 20:47 6/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
20:54 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

   -'' Race results may influence the frequency of how often you get a new sponsorship proposal''
  
  I think not only frequency, but also the amount, more results, better income :)
Yuri SuperTeam
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Posted at:
21:02 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/7-2009
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  Bermuda Aviation
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 1 free scout per day.
  
  Duration: 21 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 2
  
  
  
  1 free scout means 4k, so I guess I'm on the avarage of earnings with this sponsor! Nice addition to the game Nick, looking forward for the other sponsors and the way this will develop in the future!
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
LoleursLovers
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Posted at:
21:02 6/3-2020 GMT

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  50k in 4 weeks. I accept. I am weak...
Holwerda Cycling
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Posted at:
21:07 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
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  LOL
  
  Stroopwafelkraam Menni
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 25.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 90 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 2
  
  Off course I accept. time for some more trainees...
  
  Thanks Nick, nice to see something new in the game.

Last edit by Holwerda Cycling at 21:08 6/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
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21:08 6/3-2020 GMT

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  One bullet for free Yuri :)
  
  Just don't rush to the first dude with good starting stats ;)
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
21:13 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  300k, good number Frank
AnnoDomini
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Posted at:
21:19 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Bacilieri Pottery
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 25.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 90 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 2
  
  
  Wow! I havent seen this amount of cash flowing in one go for years! Isnt it too much??? I hope this was well thought through... Interesting to see how it will influence the game. Definitely this is a very big change and will have a lot of impacts. Very interesting. Thanks Nick for introducing the change which will surely make the game and the community more vivid.
  
  PS. My initial thoughts is that this will benefit the teams who train riders themselves. More income means it will be easier to train riders, while with the teams having more money the cost of trained riders on the transfer market will surely go up.
  

Last edit by AnnoDomini at 21:25 6/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
21:23 6/3-2020 GMT

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  you have same frank has, 300k this season from that sponsor only. Waiting another 2 to join that one, guess you will find a super cobbler sooner to buy ;)
Zakisu Pirtina
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21:24 6/3-2020 GMT

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  This should finally make training as a profitable income strategy, as the prices will skyrocket on market.
  
  Makes sense, it's the no.1 income source in every manager game except this (so far).
Alpine
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Posted at:
21:27 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  Looks like I am the odd one out, my sponsor is offering me some canteens per week :)
  
  
  I do think that most of the ones mentioned above are a bit too rich at first glance.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
21:30 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Maybe next sponsor is DP Trading, don't worry.
  
  The new urban legend says it offers 200k in one shot, and 5 sponsors... (now I disappear with lots of white smoke)
Navarone Cycling Team
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Posted at:
21:31 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 26/7-2011
Status: Online

  I am concerned over economy ... suddenly everyone has 300-400k more a season, not only the (often quite inactive) DP traders. This should increase prices of all riders (inflation) in the beginning because all money no riders, and then someone will think "hey at these prices I should train riders because training costs have not increased" so we might experience a boom in scouting and in talent prices in forum. If this catches up it *might* even work as intended, since the top20 usually can't afford to train much and need riders ready to produce, but I assume in the long run only thing will happen is a devaluation of the coin and teams will keep dp trading and jobbing since this hasn't changed much (yet) the balance of power between racing competitively and "racing to earn only".
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
21:33 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Man, did you study Economics? You sounded like my teacher.
  
  Indeed, you are right on this, but let's enjoy this moment. Tomorrow is another day to increase prices on talents
Navarone Cycling Team
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Posted at:
21:38 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 26/7-2011
Status: Online

  No, in fact I'm a tool for these topics, I brought it up in the hope some of the accountants here can provide better insight about the effect of suddenly injecting a truckload of money into an economy so small.
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
21:45 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
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  Inflation was made by a man who wasn't happy with his income, 5750 years ago. But I think this won't be the case, the prices for talents will be average (unless is a real goat, no one will increase the prices), and it depends on managers bids.
  
  For example, do you know that goverments don't create abundance? They consume it, basically its what will happen here in the next months
  
  PD: I'm not Nostradamus, he was a fraud. Just analyzing the OCM market.
Lokomotíva Zvolen
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21:46 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Wronskian, as for myself, if I can make 300k per season, I am really getting rid of my 6 slaves, because jobbing requires labor on my part that is boring, and - what I stress the most - jobbers always take some other team's place in the races where they have no intention of winning at all. I would be really glad to get rid of 6 useless riders that I don't need to take care of anymore.
Australian Warlord
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Posted at:
21:46 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Absolutely wronskian, this is too much.
  Btw: Spain 1600, best example ever. All of the gold & wealth bankrupted the country, literally.
Vaduz
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Posted at:
21:47 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
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  As an accountant and economist, I feel challenged. I do think that prices for both talents and trained good riders will rise. Teams will have more money to train so team quality will increase and differences between div 1 and div 5 teams will diminish. I'd say it will make the game more competitive, more teams will be able to field competitive squads in more disciplines.
  I'd say the transfer records will all be broken. I'd expect less 'on the side' dp trading as teams will need all 22 slots. Full dp trading would still work but with higher prices, might not buy as much as it used to. We'll see...
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
21:52 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Rust, war raised the values in Spanish, more than gold. If you read BTC search tab will show you the truth.
  
  Friedrich: That wont happen, remember my previous comment, we will consume the money, nothing else.

Last edit by USA Postal Services at 21:55 6/3-2020.

Vaduz
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Posted at:
21:58 6/3-2020 GMT

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  So how will we consume it? By training more riders or by buying for higher prices? I'm not sure where you you think the extra money will go?
Australian Warlord
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22:01 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Not correct Lance. War was a tool they used to help them. The tale of the Spanish collapse has a relevance for today's western economy.
  Essentially, Spain became massively wealthy, with loads of gold & wealth coming in from external territories. This forced up local prices for everything, labour, manufacturing, etc, so the Spanish used their gold to mass-import everything from cheaper countries. The external gold & wealth died, and Spanish was left with no industry, and no wealth in its own country.
  
  It's possibly the best example of a collapse of a super-power by wealth.
USA Postal Services
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22:01 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Training of course, if you read up, you will understand. Just a matter of time.
  
  I know another example (real example), Spain, by some other factor, its not included anymore

Last edit by USA Postal Services at 22:03 6/3-2020.

CC Est
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Posted at:
22:11 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Interesting new feature.
  
  I think Friedrich is right. Competition will be more even, because the share of price money in the whole budget is now lower.
  
  Regarding the DP. Just drop or reduce the DP impact on RV and we are done so well.

Last edit by CC Est at 22:12 6/3-2020.

Millican
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Posted at:
22:16 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Looks like an awesome feature! I got ‘Practise High’, a 90 day deal with a one time payout of $150k. When does it pay, at the beginning or end? I signed it, nothing happened yet...
USA Postal Services
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22:19 6/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  Day 90
Lundar Cycling Team
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Posted at:
22:29 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 20/1-2011
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  Very interesting feature ! Congratulations !
  
  This game will likely become more challenging as small teams will have more opportunities and facilities to scout and train young talents.
  
  Live sports videos games (ie Fifa, NHL, ...), I would prefer long-term sponsorship contrats related to team's results during one, two or three seasons than having "easy cash" :)
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
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22:33 6/3-2020 GMT

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  I did actually intend it to be immediately James, maybe Nick implemented it the other way round. I will ask him.
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
22:36 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Better is easy cash, not seasons. It will not result in a good way
Cokol Breakaway Team
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Posted at:
22:52 6/3-2020 GMT

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  I love it! Great work by Nick and Don. Not surprised that the rich teams won't like it, but this will ensure more equal playing field and survival of the game in the future.
  
  I got Minutemen Watches btw - 10k per week for 35 days.
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
22:54 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  So, I am the only one who got a poor sponsor??
  
  Damn... what a luck
Millican
Posts: 109

Posted at:
22:58 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/4-2019
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  Cool, thanks Don!
DeRodeLantaarn
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Posted at:
23:07 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Thanks Nick for this new feature.:)
  
  I like it because I like to train my own riders and this will help a lot.
  I don't have to give up on racing this way.
  
  I also think this is good for the future of the game.
  It will give the younger teams much more pleasure in playing because you don't have to sell your best talent now, you can train him now.
  
  Survivor Rat Removal
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 50.000 in 4 weeks.
  
  Duration: 28 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3
  
  I think I accept this first one.
  

Last edit by DeRodeLantaarn at 23:11 6/3-2020.

Team Zyte
Developer
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Posted at:
23:09 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 24/3-2007
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  Thanks for the feedback.
  
  Millican: Go to the sponsor page now, it should trigger the sponsorship.
  
  
  Regarding the economics: Sure, this will influence the game, as there will be a larger flow of income. For most people, especially new teams, the game is deemed to be rather slow-paced. This income may up the tempo a bit.
  
  I will add more adjustments, and more sponsors, some of which are less beneficial, whereas the possible income from sponsors in general will be smaller.
  
  Other than that, I expect to remove DP trading completely in a near future.
  
  And jobs will take slightly longer to reappear.
  
  Other than that, if the influence is too high, I will reduce the general numbers for the sponsorships, but for now, thee numbers are as intended. The balance will always be tweaked with new features and I will keep monitoring it.
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick
Time Indaiatuba
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23:10 6/3-2020 GMT

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  @Lance you've got more than me. I've only got 5,000 per week.

Last edit by Time Indaiatuba at 23:10 6/3-2020.

Ello Ello
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23:15 6/3-2020 GMT

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  nice to see a change
  
  feels like this is currently way overpowered unless there's a lot of duff ones that haven't been posted in here
  
  it's some extreme quantitive easing, DP trading was making 450k a season for 24 ish managers creating 10.8 million a season. We now have 500 people making ~300k a season which becomes 150 million a season
  
  I love the idea I just feel that this is gonna take the skill massively out of the financial management of the game
DeRodeLantaarn
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Posted at:
23:16 6/3-2020 GMT

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  I wanted to ask about jobs and like your answer on that.
  
  Do you already know how much longer it will take for jobs to reappear?
  And is that from now on?
  
Time Indaiatuba
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23:37 6/3-2020 GMT

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  It would be cool if some sponsors had specific goals. For example:
  
  -Have at least 1 breakaway rider in 3 races to receive x amount of money.
  -Win a certain number of races for x amount of money.
  -Compete in a race from your home country
  -Enter a race using only riders under 25
  
Alpine
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Posted at:
23:40 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  At the stage I am now in the game, this doesn't matter that much to me. But as a fairly new team I wouldn't be happy about this. What sets this game apart is the long slow struggle to get to division 1. This dilutes that game experience somewhat.
  
  Also, as a general rule in life, a lawyer meddling with economics typically doesn't end well ;)
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
23:41 6/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  You have more time in overall Jime, mine last 21 days. I bet yours is 35
Zalom
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Posted at:
23:45 6/3-2020 GMT

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  Many thanks, Nick and Don!! Great and fun feature.
  
  LOL, my first sponsor is DP Trading, hahaha. Ironic, isn't it? 50,000 in 4 weeks
  
  I'm coming back home from a 14h shift, so I will enjoy it and let inflation thinking for tomorrow.
  
  BTW, remember that behind the Spanish bankrupt 400 years ago and all that gold and wealth there were Spanish minds. Never underestimate our glorious capability to f*ck everything we touch...

Last edit by Zalom at 23:46 6/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
23:51 6/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  Yeah, best example is below America. Mexico and the others
DeRodeLantaarn
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Posted at:
23:52 6/3-2020 GMT

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  That is a possibility Alpine but the game has more than that.
  
  New teams get stuck now and go away.
  With this feature they are able to combine their expenses between the options this game has.
  
  I don't think it will be crowdy at the top for now.
  The best riders will stay in the top teams. Because they will still win the biddings on them.
  
  New teams will get more fun because they are able to train their own talent and are able to get 5 lo's or tm's faster to get some result out of it.
  
  In the long run it will be difficult because when a lot of teams have 22 trained riders, staff and equipment the options are gone. Reaching top division will be the only one left at that time.
  
  But I think that will take a while.
Millican
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00:02 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Got my cash, thanks Nick for the quick fix!
USA Postal Services
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00:02 7/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  To me, 268 years exactly. To me, besides that, I have posting and editing feature (race descriptions, riders, forums) so I don't even mind if I don't make it.
  
  BTW, Zalom, be careful with the flu. Vitamine C is the way to make it, labs are lying.
DeRodeLantaarn
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Posted at:
00:09 7/3-2020 GMT

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  And thanks for all of that. I read them all and voted for the most:)
  
  Their are a lot of things fun.
  For me the dream of training only riders from Argentina and The Netherlands is coming closer.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
00:21 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Thanks MW :) glad you like them.
  
  If you ever want one of yours, let me know.
  
  I will try to write the next ones with some more humor, I enjoyed writting Rodney Hodgson, really had a good laugh that night. I heard Netherlands is under attack, flu is striking. I have a dream to train an orange cobbler, if you ever receive one, let me know so we can work something ;)
AnnoDomini
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00:35 7/3-2020 GMT

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  +1 to what Jime suggested - sponsors usually have some goals.
  
  Already suggested:
  -Have at least 1 breakaway rider in 3 races to receive x amount of money.
  -Win a certain number of races for x amount of money.
  -Compete in a race from your home country
  -Enter a race using only riders under 25
  
  I would add:
  - Enter a race using only home nation riders to gain X money (this would be a great way to recognize all the single nation teams)
  - Enter a race on at least 4 different continents within X days to gain Y money
  - Finish in top 10 in a classic/tour
  - Send a rider to 8 training camps to gain X
  ect ect
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
00:59 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I can also add,
  -X number of results per season, X money
  -Ending a season with a national champion (but not pretty sure of this one, unless national champions can race for jersey, but I know it wont happen)
  -Results with U23 riders maybe (X money)
  -Winning races in TF (X money)
  
  and so on, we can keep it going until we have no ideas left.
Nefal
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02:21 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Thanks Nick! (and Don)
  
  Will be interesting to see how this affects the game in the long run.
  I'm optimistic, something definitely needed to be done about the gap to the top teams. Since the xp changes it's been pretty much impossible to catch up without teams quitting or dropping down on purpose.
  
  And training talents will finally be viable again. The ones you find yourself atleast, the best talents will probably cost 1m+ eventually. :)
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
02:45 7/3-2020 GMT

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  The first talent that costs 1M$ will max at AV38, I bet 2 dinosaurs
paceuts
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  Interesting new feature. I like the suggestions to make sponsor’s offers conditional. Would add some value to otherwise ignored parts of the game.
Universal Soup
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04:07 7/3-2020 GMT

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  To the ones who had cash instantly, does it appear on your economy screen?
  
  @paaceuts, as far as the Don explained on the chat this is supposed to be implemented in the future too.
USA Postal Services
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04:14 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Nope, nothing here, only a document of my own, IW satire I'm editing now
Navarone Cycling Team
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  Indeed I got my one-shot payment "instantly" (took a few minutes to appear, but fine) and appears in my economy page. Not sure if for recurring payments works well too.
familytour
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07:33 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I have 5k per week and didn't receive it.It doesn't make a big difference but still:(
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
07:36 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Don't worry, Nick fixed some of those problems earlier
Alpine
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Posted at:
07:42 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Am I the only to decline the first offer?
familytour
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  I wanted to but Buciu forced me to accept it
Fighting
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07:57 7/3-2020 GMT

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  5k for a week at least vs 0 David :)
Alpine
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08:01 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I would easily have accepted that. But got some water bottles :)
Team Belfius
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Posted at:
08:04 7/3-2020 GMT

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  2k per day - i like this deal!
  Good thing this does not mean that i have to change my game philosophy
  I have always trained all of my riders myself
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
08:06 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I have 8 seasons without water bottles, guess riders are happy and dry ;)
  
  Better change philosophy, there's a new one (called turn around and ignore poor world ) i use it every day ;)

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English Sprinting Team
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  Same here with a daily one. Don’t think it’s appeared in my balance and doesn’t show on the economics page (2,500 a day for 90 days, 2 max sponsors, Practise High)
  
  Edit: Just thought to myself, does the daily one pay on the time that you accepted the sponsor? That would be more logical I suppose
  
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  I WILL get past Finz in the Most Post Ranking!

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PEKAC B
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  I declined as well.
  
  Nick, good to see you active.
  
  Although I'm not sure I like this change. It is just giving money to everybody without any effort, so it totally changes economy of the game.
Alpine
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Posted at:
08:35 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I like the activity as well, but it feels like it is a little bit of a botched chance. Would have been so much better it it was tied to planning and success. That would also be much more realistic and another strategic element in the game.
USA Postal Services
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08:39 7/3-2020 GMT

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  The forever paradox, let's forget about extra cash and enjoy the game guys ;)
  
  
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  'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2

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Alpine
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  I'll play the game within whatever framework is provided. But this feels rushed as a reaction to a very very small minority complaining about the changes to DP trading.
USA Postal Services
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  I made some suggestion to make a bit 'harder' the sponsor income. Looks nobody pays me attention :(
  
  
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  'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
USA Postal Services
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  Just a few posts up
CC Est
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Posted at:
08:56 7/3-2020 GMT

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  @Alpine or REKAC.
  
  What your sponsor page tells you after declining? Need to wait for a week to get next offer or?
Alpine
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Posted at:
09:06 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Sponsors
  
  
  Your next sponsorship proposal will appear in 6 days 13 hours.
  
  
  
familytour
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  I wanted to but Buciu forced me to accept it
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
09:12 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Just like the talent thing, but shorter in the meantime. To finish my idea (need to keep writting my Infinity War twist tale) I have the best sponsor in the game LOL, and Alp, I've never complained about DP system of a down, in fact I never used it.
  
  It's amazing, ideas come quick to my head after 2 am (4 am now)
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Hommerts Cycling Team
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Posted at:
09:12 7/3-2020 GMT

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  No money for me but a boost in performance, like it:
  
  Cobbler & Gamble
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives all your riders 10% extra Team Spirit.
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
USA Postal Services
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  Pretty interesting... I wonder what sponsor offers easter eggs... or 10$ (it would help a lot) ;)
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Sigue Sigue Sputnik
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09:27 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Cool, a new feature!
  
  I read the thread and it's still not very clear to me: I just signed a 5k per week deal, but when does it pay out? After a week? Because I didnt receive 5k when I signed.
ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
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Posted at:
09:47 7/3-2020 GMT

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  The Scout News Agency
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 10.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 35 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3
  
  I think I will accept because this would mean that I can accept 2 more sponsorships at the same time. Any idea ?
USA Postal Services
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  It pays out every week, if your deal last 35 days, five weeks, 5k per week. 25k whole deal, and every 7 days you will have a chance to add another sponsor (depending the limit of the previous, and so on)
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
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09:48 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I know what type of team I am , and I wont get many results in this division , so i am going to take it.
USA Postal Services
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  In fact, 3 more sponsors
  
  Correction, yes the 3. Guess hitting 5 am with nothing in belly strikes hard.
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2

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USA Postal Services
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09:49 7/3-2020 GMT

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  @Fedor, your sponsor is cool, mine is the worst I've ever heard so far
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
PEKAC B
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09:51 7/3-2020 GMT

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  In case i it further developed I would like to have it effort based.
  
  Some minimum fee is OK but then e.g.:
  
  - training X lessons = + y%
  - racing A races = + B%
  - delivering D results or scoring E points = + F%
  - writing an accepted rider bio or race description = G%
  - winning a trophy or jersey = ...
  etc.
  
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
09:53 7/3-2020 GMT

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  With your suggestions, I think I could achieve only one... :( Me no likes it
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Manisaspor
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  I was also offered 100 K, I haven't been active for the last week.
  This is very interesting but the possible effects are unclear to me right now. Probably the top teams should not enjoy it a lot. Everyone will be throwing money for transfers. Maybe training Turkish guys would be feasible for me in the future.
  
  The conditional sponsorships look very interesting to me.
  
  Casino Online
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team a one-time payment of 100.000 $ instantly.
  Duration: 90 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3

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Alpine
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Posted at:
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  What would have been cool would be to have one main sponsor that you decide on before the season. Here you define your main goals and achievement of those would lead to extra payouts. This could be promotions, results in tour or classics, number of wins, etc.
  
  Then additionally, you could have smaller sponsors in season for shorter periods, comparable to what is introduced now.
  
  I just don't understand why the chance to make this game more fun and interesting isn't capitalized on when introducing a new feature like this?
Yuri SuperTeam
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Posted at:
09:57 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Honzas: I like that idea! It would be nice to have sponsors with a basic offer and a offer boost based on specific requirements. This would give an extra decision possibility to this feature on cases like "this sponsor offer is very low, but if I reach the specific requirement it would be amazing".
  
  Example of the Alpine rejected sponsor:
  Basic offer: 2 canteens a day
  Special offer: 100k after winning 3 races on your current division
  Duration 21 days
  
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
USA Postal Services
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  All tops so far are not agree... yeh, happens. But what is good or not, is a thin line we can't see right now, until we are in the middle....
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
10:00 7/3-2020 GMT

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  @Alp... yeah, that would be a great solution +1
  
  But the shorter terms sponsors would be a sort of new jobs
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Yuri SuperTeam
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Posted at:
10:02 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Alpine: Seasonal sponsors are also a great idea! You could receive like 3 distinct offers with different difficulties (and offers) for you to decide from.
  
  
  My only concern here (and on some other suggestions where you need to achieve results for money) is how we should handle top teams dropping down divisions. For them it would become super easy to achieve those needed results...
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
USA Postal Services
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Posted at:
10:04 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Maybe putting a division in specific, eg
  
  100k with 5 wins in Div 1. or 100k with 5 results.
  
  A new lvl of difficulty, 100k with 3 wins (div 1) in TF
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2

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Alpine
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  Just make the money payout lower if you achieve it in a lower division than the one you started in
Alpine
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  It actually would need to be permanently different between the divisions. If not it would be exploited. But different levels make sense.
USA Postal Services
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  Idk Rick, you mean about some specific sponsors for Divs? Like if you start in Div 2 that season or 4. Sponsors based in the current division you/I in.
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Team WonderDee
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Posted at:
10:23 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Nice to sign the teams first sponsor deal with an outdoor adventure company. Both as a Norwegian team and an outdoor enthusiast :)
  
  Free Scouts Outdoor Adventures 7k a week :D
Sigue Sigue Sputnik
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Posted at:
10:27 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Still not clear to me if weekly deals pay out upon signing or after 7 days. I didnt receive anything when I signed, so I guess it is the first payment after a week?
Gruppo Apparte
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10:33 7/3-2020 GMT

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  "It actually would need to be permanently different between the divisions. If not it would be exploited. But different levels make sense."
  
  As always, some of us can't enjoy a new feature. And try to exploited AS ALWAYS for big teams! Let it be randomize, Alpine Cav!!!!!!!

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Alpine
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Posted at:
10:41 7/3-2020 GMT

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  It is the exact opposite I am suggesting. Being able to drop down an get the same payout from results would strongly encourage divisional dropping from big teams as you call them. But hey, this is not a feature of the game currently in any shape or form.

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Gruppo Apparte
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10:46 7/3-2020 GMT

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  As i said, let it be randomize. In that way, no one can exploit it.
Alpine
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Posted at:
10:48 7/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  Why have a random way of handling out cash, when it can be made to a very entertaining part of the game is my only point.
Navarone Cycling Team
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Posted at:
10:57 7/3-2020 GMT

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  After much thought I actually think this is good for the top teams and will have the unintended effect of actually increasing the gap between the best teams and the rest. On the other hand, it might actually prove true that this will help good managers that start now the chance to climb divisions faster.
  
  I still don't get why we should help managers climb divisions though. What we should do is ensure the game is fun and engaging in whatever divisions you are, and this can be achieved with frequent objectives (classics, tours and cups) in all divisions, calendars for all types of team in all divisions, and stronger community. More money only means that the teams that have been good at managing it will have more toys to play with, that managers that have been not good at managing it will keep making the same mistakes, and that starting teams and teams that have been particularly unlucky with training or injuries will get a second chance faster, which I agree is a particularly good thing I suppose. Also "theme teams" will be more viable now.
  
  I hope the positives outweigh the negatives and that this is not as a big deal as I think, but I'm sure this will have more impact in the game than anything has been done before, including the infamous XP tweaks. For the moment time of change is time for volatile markets, so smart investors will already start to thrive in this new environment, and the upper hand they might gain until the new economic rules are more clear for everyone might be unsurmountable for a few seasons. Let's see.
Velo Club Bored Man
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Posted at:
12:03 7/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  It's a great addition - nice on Nick.
  
  (Seasonal sponsors or would be cool, yes. But I think it would also be very hard to implement from a technical point of view. So I can see why Nick has avoided doing that)
Schiavi di Don
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12:13 7/3-2020 GMT

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  There actually are some seasonal deals among them already. So for version two plans to expand on that are definitely an option.
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Alpine
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Posted at:
12:27 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Why would that be difficult Hairingtons? Say, day 75 every season you get X different sponsorship offers with varying degree of difficulty or categories that you have to select before day 90 (if you don't make an active selection the easiest one is selected). The sponsorship would then pay a flat amount plus bonuses when goals are reached. For example X for every win in a classic and Y for a result, etc.
Velo Club Bored Man
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Posted at:
12:44 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Don - cool.
  
  Alpine - Just thinking that sponsors being results based (ie - win a xyz tour, or claim xyz points) would be more problematic. Like we've had trouble before with Tours not working properly/bugs etc. I think it'd be more prone to bugs or errors.
Universal Soup
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13:11 7/3-2020 GMT

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  I think that is the plan in the future Alpine to get different kind of deals and more strategy. Also with certain goals as win x amount of races or a specific race or region. So what you are describe is already the supposed end goal of the feature ( as I understand it )
Schiavi di Don
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  From my side you understood it BrokenChain. ;)
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Team Zyte
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Posted at:
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  It is absolutely the plan to have so called "conditional" sponsors. Sponsors that reward you if you do something specific. However, in order for that to work, it must play out across on all divisions. Therefore, there will be different approaches. Sometimes, certain events will trigger a new sponsorship offer (of any type). Other times, you will get a sponsorship offer that only rewards if you do certain things.
  
  Seasonal sponsors have already been introduced, and more will be introduced. It will however never be set to a specfic day on the calendar, or anything like that, as that would make the waiting time for a new team potentially be 2-3 months. Instead, offers will just have a duration of 90 days and thereby covering a full season.
  
  Some of the future sponsors may have a "fixed" reward and additional rewards if you reach certain goals. The goals will be similar across divisions, i.e. "win a tour" but not "win a specific tour".
  
  I wanted to release version 1 now to add more income to the game, which, especially for new teams, can be very slow paced, which means that many new players give up early. I thought about giving higher amounts in lower divisions, but I couldn't see any realism in that, and I would then expect even more teams moving down divisions. So I ended up with a "flat" system with equal income for everyone.
  
  One of the key goals of the feature is to have managers making choices. Which sponsorships are worth it - and at which times? If I accept this, what will I miss out on? Is it better to rely on 1 main sponsor and another sub-sponsor, or is it better to rely on 4 sponsors? Naturally, that depends on which sponsorship offers you get, so at least the aim is, that it will never be a straight forward decision for the managers to make.
  
  When introducing conditional sponsors, it will be even more difficult to assess which sponsorship proposal you should accept.
  
  If the increase in income has too much of an influence on the game, I will naturally change it. Or increase other costs. There are many ways to balance it. As I already said, that is something I will monitor as we go forward.
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick
Team Zyte
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  I also did wanted to avoid a very complex system (code-wise) that would take years to develop, as that would practically mean that it was unlikely to ever be finished. I therefore went with version 1 and to expand the complexity of the system later. The ideas are many, at this point.
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick
Opium Fueled
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Posted at:
13:44 7/3-2020 GMT

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  Someone posted that their sponsor increased team spirit.
  
  I thought there were only monetary compensations?
Team WonderDee
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Posted at:
13:50 7/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  Good to see you back Nick, and with a new feature. Hopefully you get the time to upload and make active the last badges in the achievement future too. Lot of manager do enjoy them, and it would be good to complete it.
Moose Machines
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Posted at:
13:59 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/3-2019
Status: Online

  Exciting new feature - thanks Nick/Don :)
  
  I read about all of the money people were getting offered, excitedly went to my new, shiny, sponsors page......10% team spirit boost....initial disappointment tempered by the fact that I have a cup coming up and the extra TS will hopefully prove beneficial :) Money can wait.....
Australian Warlord
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14:12 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 28/8-2011
Status: Offline

  There's one thing yet to be discussed with this free $350k a season. And that's jobs. What's the point of doing jobs now, or having it? $350k free, vs a couple of $k and a hit on TS. I like the basic idea of it, to give a little boost, but when it's overpowered the actual game aspects of jobs & race income (basically everything besides dopping), it's a major reconsideration of intended game economic structure.
Yuri SuperTeam
Posts: 4972

Posted at:
14:24 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/7-2009
Status: Online

  Would be awesome to have the community creating Sponsor Logos and have them on the team page! Maybe even on the shirts, but since it is so small it would be very difficult...
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
Rwanda Power
Posts: 23

Posted at:
15:26 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 25/5-2017
Status: Offline

  I really like the logo idea, Yuri. Would "spice up" the sponsor page a bit and I think the community will create some awesome looking logo's.
Team WonderDee
Posts: 5408

Posted at:
15:36 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 13/7-2008
Status: Online

  Hopefully the sponsors dont only give money, but free scouts/TS boost etc.
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
15:43 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  So far we have seen:
  - Money
  - TS boosts
  - Free scouts
  - canteens/bars
Team WonderDee
Posts: 5408

Posted at:
15:44 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 13/7-2008
Status: Online

  Good, did see Moose Machines got a TS boosts.
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
16:21 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
Status: Offline

  Free scouts do cost me 4k though;)
Kyp
Posts: 74

Posted at:
16:39 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 3/2-2018
Status: Online

  That's something nice and I like the part with results can influence sponsorship and the fact sponsor not giving only money but free scouts and stuff too.Looks like a great addition to the game.

Last edit by Kyp at 16:42 7/3-2020.

Vegemight
Posts: 53

Posted at:
17:05 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 7/10-2018
Status: Offline

  As a mid division team i like the New feature. Its spice up the game a Lot, cause as a manager theres choices to make, and we all know that sponsorship has a big role on cycling. Yuri's Idea is great too, and condicional sponsors puts really Nice objectives to achieve.
  
  Anyways, thx a Lot nick for this awesome game you put up to us. I enjoy It Very much.
Britcycles
Posts: 1177

Posted at:
17:20 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 10/7-2010
Status: Offline

  Liking the new feature!
  
  It seems Im now indebted to the OCM Bank... :o
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
17:34 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Gonna post some other deal sponsors later, just waking up again.
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
paceuts
Posts: 519

Posted at:
19:00 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/6-2018
Status: Offline

  Here's what I got FYI.
  
  Mauritius Airlines
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 2.500 $ per day.
  
  Duration: 90
  Max sponsors: 2
  
  Nice long-term deal I think, but concerned about max sponsors.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
19:23 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Why everyone has better deals than me? Is because I am ugly??
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
19:25 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  Yes, that is why
  
  
  (Unfortunately I know what that says about me, as your offer was way better than mine)
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
19:28 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Of course not, my hair is getting a light blonde natural colour. And I am looking better now, maybe 10 years ago not so much. And I am trying to shower every 2 days now ;)
  
  You are a viking, you should have no problems :)
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Goege Team
Posts: 509

Posted at:
19:46 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/7-2018
Status: Offline

  Changes are great because it means that the game's alive, so thanks Nick :-)
  
  A lot of (good) things have been written, but one thing I'd like to add. The effect on the race calender, mainly in lower divisions.
  
  Right now almost every new team and most teams in lower divisions have one CP and therefore are riding with 1 team. With the money floating in with this change many teams will be able to get a second or even third CP. This means more sign ups for races and that will result in races filling up (too) quickly. (This effect will mainly been seen in lower divisions, as in the higher divisions most teams already have more than one CP).
  
  With the recently added races in the lower divisions this problem was solved.
  I don't say this is urgently but better thinking about it before a problem occurs.

Last edit by Goege Team at 19:47 7/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
19:49 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  I think that with the current race calendar is good enough now in the low Divs
  
  Yes, you are right. More teams will be able to hire a second leader, but that will raise the level of competition; which is a good thing for everyone :)
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
California Mist
Posts: 1342

Posted at:
19:53 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 20/6-2012
Status: Offline

  Nice feature :) thanks Nick
  
  Fair Value Enterprise
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team a one-time payment of 150.000 $ instantly.
  
  Duration: 90
  Max sponsors: 2
  
  
  
  
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
19:55 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
Status: Offline

  @Goege
  Yes, valid point i think
  Even in higher divisions there will surely be more teams like mine with only a couple of trained riders/captains and having more then double/triple/quadruple/quintuple/sixtuple the income will surely effect a teams calender.
  
  
  Does anybody know how the free scouts are supposed to work??
  I signed my sponsor on Day 22 and i didnt receive any free scouts yet.
  Should they add-up to the total of free scouts on your profile or do you have just use the free-scout everyday?
  
  I tested a couple of hours ago and it just costed me 4k
  Scouting: 4.000 $
  

Last edit by Skeel at 19:55 7/3-2020.

Yuri SuperTeam
Posts: 4972

Posted at:
20:00 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/7-2009
Status: Online

  Sergelwd I have the same problem like you have, the free scouts you should be able to watch them on the team page under the canteens and energy bars, but unfortunalty nothing appeared until now. I hope Nick is looking into it. 24h didn't pass just yet, so maybe after those 24h we should have something, let's see.
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
20:03 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
Status: Offline

  Yeah, ill keep my patience for now:)
  
  The deal still states there are 21/21 days left so maybe it's just working as intended
Vaduz
Posts: 177

Posted at:
20:14 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
Status: Online

  My first daily payment came in 24h after contract signing so I’d say that’s standard
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
20:40 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  I think after the deal is over, you receive the money/scouts/water/ or not?
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Yuri SuperTeam
Posts: 4972

Posted at:
21:08 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/7-2009
Status: Online

  Sergelwd I can confirm you that after the 24h have passed I received the free scout! It's working!
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
21:24 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Perfect, I will see next Friday if it works LOL
  
  #ItsAlive! #IAmFrankensteinsMonster
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Comfius
Posts: 1483

Posted at:
22:38 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/5-2012
Status: Offline

  Meanwhile I have had contact with a player from div 6 and div 3, and they know nothing because they don't read everything.
  I suggest to send everyone a pm if there are important announcements because otherwise more than the half of the managers don't know it and it is precisely for those players which it is made.
Vaduz
Posts: 177

Posted at:
22:40 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
Status: Online

  Agreed or put it on the front page at least
DeRodeLantaarn
Posts: 1812

Posted at:
23:00 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/10-2016
Status: Offline

  I asked it before but it isn't possible to sent a central pm to everybody.
  So this is a problem.
  
  So lets hope they open the teampage now or then and see the difference of a extra page.
English Sprinting Team
Official Supporter
Posts: 3703

Posted at:
23:02 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/3-2012
Status: Offline

  Got the same issue, the 2.5k hasn’t arrived and it’s been 24h
  
  -------------------------------------------
  
  I WILL get past Finz in the Most Post Ranking!
Opium Fueled
Posts: 1714

Posted at:
23:25 7/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/1-2012
Status: Offline

  Anyone else has mixed feeling about TS boost being one of the potential sponsor rewards?
  
  All the other sponsors have monetary rewards or permutations thereof (canteens, free scouts, etc.). Now the monetary rewards allow each team to spend the money however they please, meaning there's a level playing field and leading to no direct impact to actual races. On the other hand TS boost gives some teams a direct 10% bonus to supporting riders, which is substantial and gives these teams a direct advantage in races.
V02maXXers
Posts: 3513

Posted at:
00:01 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/6-2013
Status: Online

  Big fan of new features, but not happy with this new one.
  
  1. Agree with Oriental about TS boost. It directly affects performance during races, which gives some an unfair advantage in races.
  
  2. It entirely screws up the economy of the game. I got an offer to get 25k a week. This is almost 325k in a season. Only a few top teams earn more price money in a season. I get it for free. And then I can sign another sponsor contract later.
  
  3. A new feature is introduced and already the first bugs come in. There is already a big list of bugs reported and with this new feature the technical debt has increased only more. Really have my doubts about the release process. I think it is better to get rid of the most severe existing bugs before introducing new features.
  
  @Nick: As I work in IT I volunteer to help you with release / testing. I have experience with that. If you are interested, send me a pm.
  
  P.s.: I know that this is a hard game to play economic wise. And I am completely fine with giving starting teams some extra money/advantages to accelerate the build up of a team. Throwing shitloads of money to everyone by sponsors is not the way to go imo.
Drapeau Noir
Posts: 4499

Posted at:
01:55 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/8-2010
Status: Offline

  I agree with Lamme on points 1 & 3:
  - The TS boost affects the performance too much. Bad idea.
  - Getting rid of existing bugs should be a priority over creating new ones (aka creating new features).
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
02:49 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
Status: Offline

  @ Michael
  
  I had to click on the sponsor screen to get my free scout
Nefal
Posts: 707

Posted at:
03:01 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 24/6-2013
Status: Offline

  Do we know if the TS boost increases max TS?
  Even if it does it's mostly just a convenience now with the new bug giving everyone 4% extra TS. "Paying" 150-300k for 2% more doesn't sound so appealing.
  
  I think it's interesting to have a choice between making more money and having a better chance at winning stuff though. Only problem is that it's completely random, so people might not even get to make the choice.
  
  And it has to be balanced of course. 6% more max TS (assuming the bug gets fixed) could be too much. Especially if the TS stays at 100% for several days since the max would technically be 104%.
familytour
Posts: 3255

Posted at:
07:48 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 9/7-2014
Status: Offline

  The 5k hasn't arrived and it's been 24h.Maybe after one week?
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
07:51 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  What says your deal?
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
familytour
Posts: 3255

Posted at:
08:04 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 9/7-2014
Status: Offline

  
  Survivor Rat Removal
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 4
  
  
  Days left: 34
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
08:13 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Yes, per week. Just like my deal, you have to wait one week to see those 5k :D
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
familytour
Posts: 3255

Posted at:
08:31 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 9/7-2014
Status: Offline

  Thanks:)
  Long wait;p
Comfius
Posts: 1483

Posted at:
09:22 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/5-2012
Status: Offline

  Help:
  Did you know...
  
  You can also places important announce here.
Universal Soup
Posts: 177

Posted at:
10:23 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 10/3-2019
Status: Offline

  The announcements are already at the front page? Every topic posted in the announcement forum is displayed at the top right.
  
  The Help box you can disable, so players who did that will miss the announcements. Best would be to have a red balloon to the topic in announcements too.
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
12:31 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  @ Nefal
  
  Actually, the TS raise was due to a bug fix, not a bug. So it is permanent. I forgot to tell.
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Nefal
Posts: 707

Posted at:
12:57 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 24/6-2013
Status: Offline

  Ok, that's good. The TS sponsor is perfectly fine then imo.
Lokomotíva Zvolen
Posts: 315

Posted at:
20:36 8/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 23/7-2014
Status: Offline

  I've got an idea, guys. What if those sponsors were real? I mean, that would be an opportunity for Nick to earn some money for the game. The logo of the sponsor would appear on the team profile page, so every manager who visits the profile will see it. I think there is enough people playing this game so that this proposal could be interesting for potential sponsors. Or not?
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
04:06 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Nope, that's too riskful. Mom will not approve it.
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
10:50 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  I was super excited with the bunch of free canteens and energy bars I was going to get from my sponsor.
  
  Now reading the topic I realise this might be the worst sponsor deal in the game at the moment, might have been a mistake accepting this.
  
  I should have know better.
Nikoline
Posts: 1161

Posted at:
10:55 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/10-2014
Status: Online

  Will you list your sponsor? Here is mine:
  
  Helleman Aero Company
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 4
  
  
  Days left: 34
  
  
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
11:37 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  South African Revenue Service
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 10 energy bars and canteens per week.
  
  Duration: 28
  Max sponsors: 4
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 10 energy bars and canteens per week.
  
  Duration: 28
  Max sponsors: 4
  
  
  
  To be noted that the South African Revenue Service is real, it is the tax authority in South Africa IRL. Not sure if it was intended to use real names of real entities.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
11:58 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  It was nonnies' idea, I think so. If you looking someone to blame for this.
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Equipo Easy On
Posts: 1661

Posted at:
12:00 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/2-2009
Status: Online

  Very nice.
  
  It has been impossible for me to maintain training fresh riders without some DP trading. This is especially the case when you spend many seasons jojo-ing between div 1 and 2. Scoring in Div 2 and then being unsuccessful in Div 1 (except for ranks 6 to 9 which gives you enough points to stay in Div 1 but only marginal incomes)
  
  However, scouting and training your own riders is not the strategy for success. The big big teams do not have an income problem therefore I see that the wealth gap may only increase. Therefore I don't think that the sponsors should be a function of success. This really could make it worse.
  
  My suggestion is also that home trained riders have a TS advantage.
  
  However it is very nice to see something new! Thanks!
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
12:05 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  @Lance
  
  :) Not looking to put blame anywhere. :)
  
  I don't mind SARS at all.
  
  It just needs to be confirmed that we are allowed to use real name of businesses or entities.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
12:10 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Just in case, who knows...
  
  S.A.R.S comes from a super sprinter who has power for almost everything... but not, no real names allowed. Maybe nobody knows about this SA instrument of slavery and domination.
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Nikoline
Posts: 1161

Posted at:
13:04 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/10-2014
Status: Online

  umaliyasi: That must be the worst sponsor-deal out there, then again, you are not a capitalist ;-)
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
13:09 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  umaliyasi, I got the same, I did reject though.
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
13:12 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  Right.
  
  I was lacking a point of comparison to be aware of how bad this was. I should have read this whole thread before accepting this.
  
  I had no idea how good other sponsors were and what I was possibly missing out on by accepting this one.
  
  At least I am living up to my team name...
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
13:22 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  And it was only for four weeks. It being the first one, you probably end up on the right side of that bet
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
13:23 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  One question I have, if you have the max number of sponsor, will you still get weekly offers?
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
13:32 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  And I imagine that if we already have two ongoing sponsor deals. We will only receive new offers with Max sponsors: 3 or Max sponsor: 4.
  
  Or will we receive offers with Max sponsors: 2 or Max sponsors: 1 anyway, that we will not be able to accept up until other sponsor deals expire ?
  
  I read the whole thread and I do not think I read that detail anywhere.
PetrolGas
Posts: 50

Posted at:
13:35 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/11-2019
Status: Online

  It only last 28 days, so why not take it?
CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
13:39 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  Energy bars and canteens straight from a collective farm:)
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
13:44 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  @Petri I guess because if we get one offer every 7 days. Having this ongoing has a chance of limiting what I can accept in the next three rounds.
  
  That's minor but that is something.
  
  @Taavi that's probably exactly it. LoL

Last edit by World Communism Team at 13:48 9/3-2020.

PetrolGas
Posts: 50

Posted at:
13:47 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/11-2019
Status: Online

  You can have 3 more with that sponsor
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
13:55 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  @Petri,
  
  Yes with this one I can have three more. But maybe the next offer I get will allow only one more.
  
  I mean if the next offer I get is good and I also accept.
  
  And then again the one I get after that is also good and says I can get only two max, I will not be able to accept that third one right away. Due to that new one having two max and me already having two. I would be delayed by two weeks in accepting that third sponsor.
  
  Or not be able to receive that good third sponsor offer at all, depending how it works.
  
  It just takes up one spot in my sponsor tally for very little reward, for 28 days, it is short, but it is 4 weeks, so 4 rounds of sponsor offers before it is out of my way.
PetrolGas
Posts: 50

Posted at:
14:01 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/11-2019
Status: Online

  Yeah, I get it. Probably shouldn't take that offer...
Lokomotíva Zvolen
Posts: 315

Posted at:
14:18 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 23/7-2014
Status: Offline

  Leolion, I have the same company as you, but I get 2.000 $ per day... Interesting, isn´t it?
Nikoline
Posts: 1161

Posted at:
15:26 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/10-2014
Status: Online

  I had to scroll back, and yes, you do. I guess there are variations on a lot of them.
  
  Only difference to my advantage is that I can have 4 sponsors with mine :-/
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
16:07 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
Status: Offline

  It's not 100% clear for me what the actual max sponsor limit is..
  right now i have max sponsors: 2, but when i get a max sponsors: 4 in 5 days it should imo raise the cap to 4 since that is the new max.
  Does anyone know if this is intended like this?
  
Team Belfius
Posts: 393

Posted at:
16:33 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/6-2016
Status: Online

  I think the lowest maximum amount of sponsors will count
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
16:53 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  Sponsor names are random, they are not tied to a specific reward (yet). So that's why it's very likely to have people with the same sponsor name and different rewards.
  
  And yeah, the lowest amount allowed is always the limit.
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2

Last edit by Schiavi di Don at 16:53 9/3-2020.

Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
17:02 9/3-2020 GMT

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  That's what i feared alreayd, but it doesn't really make sense though since it's a max limit.
Time Indaiatuba
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Posted at:
17:07 9/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Online

  It makes perfect sense. If one sponsor says you can have a max of 4 and another sponsor says you can have a max of 2 then your max is 2. The first sponsor is happy because you only have 2 (less than the max) and so is the second sponsor.
  
  Otherwise the max number wouldn't matter. The point is that the bigger financial rewards are balanced by lower numbers of sponsors.
World Communism Team
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Posted at:
17:30 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
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  Makes good sense to me as well. This is how I understood it.
  
  You have to honour both contracts at the same time. So max 4 and max 2 simultaneously.
  
  Max 2 is always less than 4, so in practice you are limited to 2.
  
  Up until the max 2 contract expires and you are left with the max 4 contract.
  
  So in short you are limited to the lowest max of your current sponsor deal contracts.
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
18:18 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
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  Yeah i get how that would work balance-wise but i cant really see how a max 2 should overrule a max of 4 since it's a maximum.
  A limit of 2 overruling a limit of 4 is much more logical to me.
Moose Machines
Posts: 164

Posted at:
18:41 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/3-2019
Status: Online

  In this regard 'maximum' and 'limit' mean exactly the same thing, so it's just semantics. It's not a matter of one overruling the other; as Umaliyasi says, your lowest current sponsor max is your max, simple as. Otherwise if you worked to your highest max, the sponsorship contracts which permit lower maximums would be invalidated.
Time Indaiatuba
Posts: 746

Posted at:
19:29 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/6-2017
Status: Online

  If you sign a contract with a business promising to only work with a maximum of 3 other companies, then you sign a contract with another business promising to only work with a max of 1 other company, then you can't sign any other contracts. Because signing with a 3rd company would invalidate the agreement with the 2nd one. The first one offering you access to more doesn't matter.
Skeel
Posts: 341

Posted at:
19:35 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/1-2014
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  Yes, but those companies forgot to clearly state that in the contract;)
  Just stating max sponsors: 2 leaves alot of room for semantics;p
team dustin
Posts: 1307

Posted at:
19:40 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 30/11-2016
Status: Online

  that is just the game, make choices, to accept or decline
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
20:13 9/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
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  @sergelwd, personally I found the terms of the contract to be rather clear after all.
  
  I don't see much ambiguity in it. But maybe that's just the way I am wired.
Goege Team
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Posted at:
06:35 10/3-2020 GMT

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  Let‘s assume I have 2 sponsors that allow a max of 3 sponsors.
  Could it be that the next offer I get is a sponsor that allows only a max of 2 and I therefore don‘t even have a chance to accept the offer?
  
  I guess it will be like that as the offer one get is totally random?
World Communism Team
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Posted at:
07:36 10/3-2020 GMT

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  @Goege
  
  I guess in a case like this you would have a chance to keep that new offer waiting and wait until one of your two previous sponsors expire so to accept the new one.
  
  Only assuming though. Time will tell.
Goege Team
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Posted at:
07:46 10/3-2020 GMT

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  Agree with you. But in that case you won‘t get any new offer.
  Interesting, even though it‘s randomly and pure luck what offer you get you still can lose quite some money if you‘re doing mistakes ;-)
Equipo Easy On
Posts: 1661

Posted at:
10:29 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/2-2009
Status: Online

  For my Team, this is definitely something that will give me more freedom to operate and therefore fun as I pursue a strategy of a team with a country limitation and scouting and training only myself. This is very expensive and not bound for great success.
  
  One should think about what should be rewarded in this game and use this new feature to nudge players into that direction.
  
  That could be:
  
  -free scouts (implemented)
  -training discounts
  -double income from jobs
  -TS increase (implemented)
  -time for new talents halved
  -equipment discount (helps newer teams more)
  -certain equipment for free (also more interesting for the young teams)
  -cheaper staff upgrades
  
  
  More complicated and therefore bug-prone:
  -financial rewards for training X sessions (already suggested)
  -using all riders in races (counterweight to TF)
  -doing all jobs
  -buying young riders
  -reward for scouting X riders
  
  
  I do not think that rewards for successful riding would be a good thing as this could be exploited by Division dropping AND would pile more money onto those who have plenty of income anyway.
  
  Whatever this is no criticism.
  
  The really ironic thing is that I had just decided to start DP trading to keep myself busy and it must have been on the very day when new riders suddenly hat DP of 85+ :D)
  
  

Last edit by Equipo Easy On at 10:48 10/3-2020.

Rantanplan
Posts: 2630

Posted at:
15:04 10/3-2020 GMT

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  It's good to see some novelties showing the game is still alive and well, thanks Nick and Don.
  
  I read a lot of interesting ideas here to developp this sponsorshipness, But i think that it must be cared to not duplicate existing devices: If sponsors give rewards for goals, it will be like if present achievements would be financially rewarded, and that will probably profit more to big teams than new ones.
Baccala
Posts: 56

Posted at:
15:43 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2018
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  This is a fantastic addition to the game and one that happens in real life cycling (unlike DP trading which as far as I am aware is not part of real life cycle racing :o)
  
  Of course it will need tweaking over time but as has been mentioned, it gives lower league managers the chance to invest and train in talent, whether that's to keep for themselves or sell on the market, again a pretty natural occurrence in real life sports.
  
  I welcome this and if it adds to the competitiveness of the game then it can only be a good thing.
NightmareChaos
Posts: 7214

Posted at:
19:58 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 27/3-2011
Status: Online

  Nice addition. I'm thinking on a comeback but I might need a nation change in the near future. I'll wait a while in the mean time
Yuri SuperTeam
Posts: 4972

Posted at:
20:01 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/7-2009
Status: Online

  Not sure if this bug was already pointed out, but I only receive my free scout (should receive 1 each day) on the days where I go to the sponsors page.right now I have 2 free scouts and should have like 4 if I'm not mistaken.
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
20:33 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Haven't heard of it @Yuri.
  
  @Finz, no more russian blokes?
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
NightmareChaos
Posts: 7214

Posted at:
20:36 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 27/3-2011
Status: Online

  Some possibilities on the way
Rantanplan
Posts: 2630

Posted at:
20:39 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/12-2010
Status: Offline

  Why Finz, when Putin can now stay 12 years longer ? :))
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
20:39 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  There's almost no level among russian teams
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
20:42 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Russia is getting hotter now, Rantanplan. That could explain the change...
  
  
  --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
English Sprinting Team
Official Supporter
Posts: 3703

Posted at:
20:45 10/3-2020 GMT

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  Same here Yuri, only get the daily sponsor money if I go on the sponsor page
  
  -------------------------------------------
  
  I WILL get past Finz in the Most Post Ranking!
Rantanplan
Posts: 2630

Posted at:
21:11 10/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/12-2010
Status: Offline

  Means we have to go do a daily smile to the sponsor to get our daily check ? This game sticks more and more to reality ! :))
Velosipedska
Posts: 42

Posted at:
10:20 11/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/2-2020
Status: Online

  Fun idea, and great timing for me, because new teams seem to struggle the most with money ;)
  
team dustin
Posts: 1307

Posted at:
10:35 11/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 30/11-2016
Status: Online

  I consider to decline long sponsor contracts with low max sponsors.
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
10:24 12/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  @dustin
  
  Problem is that I imagine that the long sponsors with low max have the highest rewards.
  
  While short term commitments with high max sponsor are less rewarding.
  
  That would make sense.
AnnoDomini
Posts: 3060

Posted at:
16:07 12/3-2020 GMT

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  Guys, just to clarify, if Yuri needs to visit sponsor page daily to get his free scout, then if I have a weekly fee, does it mean that I have exactly 24hrs on particular day to visit the sponsor page to get the fee, or otherwise, if I visit it too late, the fee is lost?

Last edit by AnnoDomini at 16:07 12/3-2020.

NightmareChaos
Posts: 7214

Posted at:
16:20 12/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 27/3-2011
Status: Online

  Or will it add up?
Australian Warlord
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Posted at:
16:23 12/3-2020 GMT

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Status: Offline

  That's a very good question Simon. This "feature", along with effectively killing legitimate areas of the game (such as jobs) by being overpowered, also is looking more clickbaity & boringly painful than what some accused DP trading to be.
  
  @Finz: Those with daily sponsors are already saying that if they don't visit the sponsor page each day, they're not getting the money for the day.

Last edit by Australian Warlord at 16:27 12/3-2020.

Time Indaiatuba
Posts: 746

Posted at:
20:27 12/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/6-2017
Status: Online

  My guess is that if your rewards are weekly, you have a week to "claim" it before losing it. I imagine the reason you lose it would be because the next reward gets delivered and cancels out the first one. So a 24 hour cycle gives you 24 hours to claim, but a weekly one gives you a week.
  
  The first weekly rewards start getting handed out tomorrow so I guess whoever is brave enough to wait 24 hours after that will find out.
Holwerda Cycling
Posts: 2242

Posted at:
21:13 12/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
Status: Offline

  Not me, I want my weekly 25k for sure :)
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
04:14 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  @Jime, I didn't understood your point. Did you meant that if is weekly reward, I will claim every 8 days?
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Flanders Fields
Posts: 1404

Posted at:
09:05 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 20/5-2014
Status: Offline

  It should be added automatically it's not logical to have to visit the sponsor page to claim the reward, it's not stated in the contract that you have to visit the sponsor in order to get the money, and what about people that don't log in every day...
  
  Fix this bug please !
  
  
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
09:17 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  I guess I will find out if I need to visit the sponsors page to get my miserable canteens and energy bars. :)
  
  I visit the page everyday, and still nothing has come.
  
  I guess you get your reward at the first visit of the page after the end of each cycle.
  
  I signed on Monday so I guess when I visit the page on Monday I get my stuff.
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
11:31 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  Nick confirmed to me that you do have to visit the page to get your sponsor reward, but that he programmed the system so that the sponsorship won't expire until all payments have been received. So if you skip a day, you simply have to go to the sponsor page the next day twice, and you should receive both payments. If it doesn't work like that, please report it. :)
  
  His intentions are to make it independent of looking at the sponsor page, but for now that would make the page way too slow, and he'll first have to optimize the system, which he will be working on.
  
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  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Millican
Posts: 109

Posted at:
11:40 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/4-2019
Status: Offline

  Honestly it may not be bad in some ways to make people visit the page, as it prevents inactive players from racking up money...
Lokomotíva Zvolen
Posts: 315

Posted at:
12:53 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 23/7-2014
Status: Offline

  You already have merchandise shop where you can rack up 25000.
peddelen
Posts: 1677

Posted at:
14:11 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/5-2010
Status: Offline

  So far I have counted 12 different sponsorships:
  1 scout per day with a duration of 21 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
  25.000 per week with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
  150.000 one time with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
  2.500 per dag with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
  2.000 per day with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  8.000 per week with a duration of 21 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  100.000 one time payment with a duration of 90 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  50.000 one time payment with a duration of 28 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  10% TS with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  10.000 per week with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  5.000 per week with a duration of 35 days. With 4 max sponsorhips possible
  10 bars & canteens per week with a duration of 28 days. With 4 max sponsorhips possible
  
  
  

Last edit by peddelen at 14:14 13/3-2020.

Nobodies
Posts: 189

Posted at:
15:42 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 30/3-2013
Status: Offline

  Nice overview pete. I can contribute with my offer
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 6.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 28
  Max sponsors: 3
AnnoDomini
Posts: 3060

Posted at:
16:48 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 24/3-2011
Status: Offline

  Question: can you sign the same deal 2 times? I mean, it can have different name, but can I have two sponsors giving me exactly the same thing in the same time? If this is fully random, it should be possible, but maybe what you are offered is always sth different to what you already have. We will see in a while.
  
  Assuming you get sth different each time, the best option so far would be to get those 2 sponsors:
   25.000 per week with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
   150.000 one time with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
  
  This gives 550k in 90 days.
  
  With 3 sponsors it is more tricky,but the best option would be the below 3 sponsors being signed multiple times across the season:
  Get 2,5 times:  2.000 per day with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max
  Get 3 times:   50.000 one time payment with a duration of 28 days. With 3 max
  Get 2,5 times:   10.000 per week with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  
  This gives 450k in a season.
  

Last edit by AnnoDomini at 16:50 13/3-2020.

peddelen
Posts: 1677

Posted at:
17:10 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/5-2010
Status: Offline

  thx Helboe,
  
  Think a lot of managers secretly did this.
  Quite an interesting feature this one. Involves a bit of strategy (and luck).
  I have noticed so far that the sponsorships which limit you to 2 sponsor are also long term contract of a season. They have the best $/day but a set of "max 3" contract can be better because of the payout of the third.
  The "max 4" are by far the worst deals
  
  Now this all depends on what you get as an offer which is where the strategy comes in.
  For once I like a new feature.
  
  
  Oh and if anyone has a deal that isn't mentioned in my overview (or I missed one) please free to add then
  
  1 scout per day with a duration of 21 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
   25.000 per week with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
   150.000 one time with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
   2.500 per dag with a duration of 90 days. With 2 max sponsorhips possible
   2.000 per day with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
   8.000 per week with a duration of 21 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
   100.000 one time payment with a duration of 90 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
   50.000 one time payment with a duration of 28 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
   10% TS with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
   10.000 per week with a duration of 35 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
  6.000 per week with a duration of 28 days. With 3 max sponsorhips possible
   5.000 per week with a duration of 35 days. With 4 max sponsorhips possible
   10 bars & canteens per week with a duration of 28 days. With 4 max sponsorhips possible
Flanders Fields
Posts: 1404

Posted at:
17:14 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 20/5-2014
Status: Offline

  I have 7.000 $ per week for 28 days max 3 sponsors
paceuts
Posts: 519

Posted at:
18:23 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/6-2018
Status: Offline

  Wow looking at the list I feel pretty dumb taking my first offer. Guess there could have been worse though.
  
  By the way, for the bars/canteens sponsorship, it seems that it would then be possible to start a race with fewer than 6 bars/canteens. How would this work in the race engine then? Do all riders get the benefit anyways or is it random or what?
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
18:41 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  As far as I know it should be possible to get the same sponsor reward twice indeed.
  
  And Nick will change the bars and canteens one to 12, so that issue should be solved. :)
  
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  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
peddelen
Posts: 1677

Posted at:
19:18 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/5-2010
Status: Offline

  Guess the bars/canteens is the worse there is the worst there is with 1.200 per week. And you don't even get it in cash. I declined the offer myself when I found out about the feature read about the first 5 offers of others here.
  
  @Don I have a question for You & Nick
  The 25.000 per week with a duration of 90 days. How many payouts does this one give? As you come one day short of 13 payouts.
  
  
Comfius
Posts: 1483

Posted at:
20:13 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/5-2012
Status: Offline

  8.000 $ per week Duration: 28 Max sponsors: 3
  I don't understand. With fewer sponsors, you get more money!
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
20:35 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  I'll check that one with Nick pete!
  
  It's the maximum amount of sponsors allowed Jempier, so not the amount of sponsors that are giving you that money. So the less profitable the sponsor, the more other sponsors it will allow. :)
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
team dustin
Posts: 1307

Posted at:
20:36 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 30/11-2016
Status: Online

  It is logical, how more you get, how lower the number of sponsors you can have
  
  If your fourth sponsor offer is good, and you can have only three sponsors you have to wait or decline.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
20:36 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  I got my second sponsor, 7.000$ per week, 28 days, max sponsors: 3
  
  So I have two sponsors of three :)
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Fighting
Posts: 1581

Posted at:
20:59 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/7-2013
Status: Offline

  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 25.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 90
  Max sponsors: 2
  
  
  Days left: 90
  
  The name of the sponsor is "Alpine". If this is not faith, I don't know what it is :)).
familytour
Posts: 3255

Posted at:
21:35 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 9/7-2014
Status: Offline

  I received better than Buciu.10 TS boost.Thanks!!!!I'm so happy!
paceuts
Posts: 519

Posted at:
21:39 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/6-2018
Status: Offline

  I've been offered this one. What do people think? Should I take it?
  
  Casino Online
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 50.000 in 4 weeks.
  
  Duration: 28 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
21:40 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  You are welcome Buciu ;)

Last edit by Alpine at 21:40 13/3-2020.

familytour
Posts: 3255

Posted at:
21:43 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 9/7-2014
Status: Offline

  I find this change more boring than DP trading.Also luck plays a really big role in it.Some people get tons of money for doing nothing.I don't get it.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
21:44 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Go Mayhem paceuts, never decline free money.
  
  
   --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
paceuts
Posts: 519

Posted at:
21:50 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/6-2018
Status: Offline

  Forgot to mention, however, that my other sponsorship was max 2, so this would be my last one in 28 days
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
21:59 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  It happens, but never feel sad for your sponsor. I will wait for another next Friday, now Coronavirus time for dessert and spreading.
  
  
   --------
  
   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Spin Doctors
Posts: 860

Posted at:
22:07 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/6-2015
Status: Online

  I've said no to this:
  
  Farruco Touring Company
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 4
  
  Hope for better next week. It does feel a bit wrong saying no to free cash...
  
LoleursLovers
Posts: 535

Posted at:
22:19 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/1-2018
Status: Offline

  @oli the same. Your first sponsor? Me 50k After 4 weeks
  . Very long but interesting
Spin Doctors
Posts: 860

Posted at:
22:24 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/6-2015
Status: Online

  I said yes to Casino Online first time around: 2.000 $ per day for 35 days. Maximum sponsors 3.
  I only lose 5k for a chance at something better next week I suppose.
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
22:26 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  I can confirm that you can get the same offer twice. I declined the second time though. ;)
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Lokomotíva Zvolen
Posts: 315

Posted at:
22:30 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 23/7-2014
Status: Offline

  I also got 5000 per week / 35 days / max 4. I signed it, I like the max 4 attribute. The proposal then feels like a side thing, something extra that does not hurt to have. :)
paceuts
Posts: 519

Posted at:
22:39 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/6-2018
Status: Offline

  It does hurt though because of the max imposed by other deals.
Australian Warlord
Posts: 1420

Posted at:
22:47 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 28/8-2011
Status: Offline

  Quote david: " I find this change more boring than DP trading.Also luck plays a really big role in it.Some people get tons of money for doing nothing.I don't get it."
  
  And overpowered. Jobs (a genuine strategic part of the game) is effectively dead in the water. Merchandising, not worth looking at. In fact, the only economics that holds value is the various doppings.
  
  I feel that this should have been good, but the rhetoric over DP dopping got in & an unnecessary overpowerment has taken place. And yes, at least with DP dopping, those who did it both had to work for it & it had negative consequences to team performance capabilities.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
23:11 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  My rate of sponsors is good, both are 3 max. I will have 15k per week with them, waiting for a third that increases or keep the same rate of max sponsors.
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
AnnoDomini
Posts: 3060

Posted at:
23:17 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 24/3-2011
Status: Offline

  Declined my 2nd sponsor which was the Zyte canteens (sorry Nick!).
  
  This is pure gambling. Once we know more less what is a good sponsor and what is a bad one, we decline the bad ones, hoping we will get a good one next time. But if we get a bad one again, and then again, we lose 2-3 weeks of free cash. In the end we sign up soemthing, but then we may get a much better deal, but we have no more space and lose out a bit again cause we need to wait for current deals to end. We know if we did the right thing only after a couple of weeks when we see what kind of deals were offered to us along the way.
  
  Interesting, but still gambling :^)
  
  PS. On the other side, who doesnt like to gamble a bit? This one looks pretty safe - you dont lose money, you either win a bit less or a bit more...

Last edit by AnnoDomini at 23:21 13/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
23:24 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Nice thing I have received two cash sponsors. Don't forget to update the game training.
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Lokomotíva Zvolen
Posts: 315

Posted at:
23:33 13/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 23/7-2014
Status: Offline

  paceuts, you're right, I think it's worth it only when accepted as the first sponsor.
  
  Edit: And all of the other sponsors have to be max 4 as well.

Last edit by Lokomotíva Zvolen at 04:55 14/3-2020.

Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
00:12 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  To get back to pete's question, it's 12 payouts for a weekly 90-day sponsor.
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Team WonderDee
Posts: 5408

Posted at:
10:28 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 13/7-2008
Status: Online

  Alpine
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 4
  
  Thanks for nothing Alpine ;)
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
10:52 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  Haha
V02maXXers
Posts: 3513

Posted at:
16:17 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/6-2013
Status: Online

  Winning a tour didn't trigger a sponsorship ;-)
Dodge
Posts: 874

Posted at:
16:57 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 26/7-2009
Status: Offline

  Does this mean I have to wait a month for the money?
  
  -
  
  Safety Mechanics Axle Tighteners
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 50.000 in 4 weeks.
  
  Duration: 28 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 3
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
17:01 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  That is correct.
  
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  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Dodge
Posts: 874

Posted at:
17:34 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 26/7-2009
Status: Offline

  Well that's not great...
  
  Thanks for the info!
Nikoline
Posts: 1161

Posted at:
17:34 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/10-2014
Status: Online

  Still, that must be one of the best sponsors you can get, Zee :-)
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
18:47 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Yes, 50k for a month :) That's why everyone loves it. Thank OCM spirits is not a 90 days deal
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
V02maXXers
Posts: 3513

Posted at:
19:24 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/6-2013
Status: Online

  I declined my 2nd sponsor ship. 10 canteens and bars free per week; with a duration of 28 days.
Opium Fueled
Posts: 1714

Posted at:
19:32 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/1-2012
Status: Offline

  Top Form Planning Network
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 2.500 $ per day.
  
  To understand correctly, I have to open the sponsors page to get the money. The daily amount is accumulated and if I forget to open it one day I can get 5k the next day by opening it twice?
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
19:44 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Yes, that's correct.
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
PEKAC B
Posts: 2988

Posted at:
21:16 14/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/5-2012
Status: Offline

  I already declined 2nd awful offer.
  
  I would like to get a nice one next week.
peddelen
Posts: 1677

Posted at:
08:03 15/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/5-2010
Status: Offline

  What do you consider as an awful offer honzas?
Equipo Easy On
Posts: 1661

Posted at:
08:21 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/2-2009
Status: Online

  The 1st one:
  10k/week, 35 days, accepted.
  
  2nd, just now:
  10% TS increase, 35 days, declined :(
PEKAC B
Posts: 2988

Posted at:
08:24 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/5-2012
Status: Offline

  @pete: the last 2 on your list above, both giving the lowest possible value.

Last edit by PEKAC B at 08:24 16/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
08:24 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Nice one, 50k in total ;)
  
  I got one of 8k and one of 7k. Next Friday I should receive 15k and both are 3 max sponsors, so waiting another good one :)
  
  
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   'Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer'. Revelations 6: 1-2
Australian Warlord
Posts: 1420

Posted at:
08:25 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 28/8-2011
Status: Offline

  @Eli: Once I get my team fighting fit, that 2nd one is going to be such an overpowered benefit, I'd want it instantly (I wonder whether it's stackable?)

Last edit by Australian Warlord at 08:25 16/3-2020.

Equipo Easy On
Posts: 1661

Posted at:
09:04 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/2-2009
Status: Online

  At the moment, I need cash. I have been unable to train a rider last season to the full.
World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
10:58 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  I am absolutely disastrous at this.
  
  I made another blunder and accepted the 5k a week deal.
  
  So now I have two deals:
  
  1: 10 Canteens/energy bar per week - for 4 weeks (max 4)
  
  2: 5k a week - for 5 weeks (max 4)
  
  so if next Monday I get a juicy offer with lots of cash but max 2, I will be delayed for at least 2 weeks before I can accept.
  
  I hate myself.
  
Team Arctic
Posts: 82

Posted at:
11:21 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 11/8-2013
Status: Offline

  Go easy on yourself, umaliyasi. Just remain calm and learn from your mistakes. It is only a few weeks. I am sure I have wasted alot more scouting useless riders.

Last edit by Team Arctic at 11:21 16/3-2020.

World Communism Team
Posts: 74

Posted at:
11:39 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 19/9-2019
Status: Offline

  On the first one, I put my mistake on the account of "I could not have known how good other deals could be". But now that I have read the whole thread, monitored it over time, taken part in the discussion, and understood how the feature works and all implications.
  
  I have nothing to say in my defense.
  
  I was waiting for the offer crossing my fingers "This time please be cash ! Please be cash!" Then the offer arrived and I just went "YEEEEEEEES IT IS WEEKLY CASH!"
  
  ACCEPT ACCEPT ACCEPT
  
  Sure I will learn from my mistakes. But damn am I a slow learner !
peddelen
Posts: 1677

Posted at:
12:56 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 4/5-2010
Status: Offline

  Hard to say in advance if you made a bad choice say the next offer is a “ max 3” deal and you get the canteen offer again you can decline it and no major harm will be done.
  
  Knowing Nick he probably made the contracts with a high payout more rare than say that canteen offer.
  
  And looking at the length of the other offers it won’t be uncommon to decline a lot of deals in the future. If you sign a season deal and then a 5 week offer you have 5 chances to see if you get a deal to your liking.
  
  Accepting the first deals you get just for the sake of it might not be a bad choice bacause those you wait with accepting for a “good” deal might be searching for a while. Where you are still cashing.
  
Kyp
Posts: 74

Posted at:
19:36 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 3/2-2018
Status: Online

  Is there any limit of free scouts I can get total in my team?Because I plan to save all my 20 free scouts from sponsors and use it at once.
PEKAC B
Posts: 2988

Posted at:
22:32 16/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 31/5-2012
Status: Offline

  There should be no limit for free scouts.
ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
Posts: 185

Posted at:
15:34 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/6-2019
Status: Offline

  How do I know on which the money is in ? : )
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
16:50 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  It shows up exactly 24 hours, or a week, or whatever the term of the contract is after you accepted is. You then have to visit the sponsor page to get it. If you have a money deal, you can find the amount on your economy page, under 'sponsorships'.
  
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  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Goege Team
Posts: 509

Posted at:
21:26 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/7-2018
Status: Offline

  Longosiwa Fashion
  
  Content:
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team a one-time payment of 150.000 $ instantly.
  
  Duration: 90 days
  Maximum sponsors allowed under this proposal: 2
  
  
  I already have two sponsors, so I need to decline that ...
ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
Posts: 185

Posted at:
21:27 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/6-2019
Status: Offline

  very unlucky Goege )
Vaduz
Posts: 177

Posted at:
21:28 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2018
Status: Online

  I guess you could wait until one of your two sponsor deals expires...
Goege Team
Posts: 509

Posted at:
21:31 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/7-2018
Status: Offline

  Yes Friedrich, that‘s true. I still decided to decline because the other to offers have a max of 3 and I‘m sure it‘s better to have a third one.
Holwerda Cycling
Posts: 2242

Posted at:
22:08 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
Status: Offline

  I have a max of two sponsors contract. I do tough have the option to accept my new contract. What would happen if I would accept?
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
22:31 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  On paper that sponsor should not get hired. So interested to see what happens.
  
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  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Holwerda Cycling
Posts: 2242

Posted at:
22:34 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
Status: Offline

  For the sake of the community I tried it...
  
  It shows after I hired it:
  
  Sponsors
  
  You do not have room for more sponsors.
  
  
  When I go back to the page I can again accept or decline the offer.
CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
22:38 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  If you do not accept or decline, do you still get money from existing sponsors?

Last edit by CC Est at 22:38 20/3-2020.

Holwerda Cycling
Posts: 2242

Posted at:
22:39 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
Status: Offline

  Yes, I had the money (quite a lot) when I opened the sponsor page without accepting or declining.
CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
22:41 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  I see. They should give up once without any notice. Would be more realistic.
Holwerda Cycling
Posts: 2242

Posted at:
22:44 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
Status: Offline

  Glad that wasn't the case. Or perhaps they will stab me in the back next week. Who knows.
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
23:05 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  You will get a new proposal next week. The offer you got now should be worthless because you had already reached your limit. Or at least that's how we designed it. It might be that Nick slightly changed it and I forgot about it, or that something goes wrong. So worth keeping an eye on for sure.
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Holwerda Cycling
Posts: 2242

Posted at:
23:09 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/6-2011
Status: Offline

  It was not a bad offer, 10% ts bonus is pretty nice
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
23:11 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  Yeah, I didn't mean it would be bad, but it would be impossible to hire. The new one will overwrite it in a week. But I will check on that.
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
23:14 20/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  Checked with Nick, and it currently is possible to save your sponsors for when you have room for it again. However, the plan is to add deadlines in the near future.
  So for now you can forget what I just said. ;)
  
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
03:57 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  I accepted my third sponsor today. Had a max limit of three and this one allows me a 4th sponsor next friday... things are coming out very well, 20k per week now and another spot free.
  
  
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   ‘Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer’. Revelations 6: 1-2
Universal Soup
Posts: 177

Posted at:
05:04 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 10/3-2019
Status: Offline

  If the first ones allow max three i don't think you will get one more.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
05:20 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  I think I didn't made myself clear. My first two sponsors have a max of 3 sponsors, the one I accepted today has a max of 4 sponsors, and I have 3. So next week, if I have luck, I can have another one. Of course, my first sponsor will finish next week, so no problem.
  
  
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   ‘Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer’. Revelations 6: 1-2
CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
07:08 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  If one of the three says max 3. Then you cannot have 4 sponsors at the same time.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
07:32 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Quote: '' if I have luck, I can have another one. Of course, my first sponsor will finish next week, so no problem.'' Means that if a 3 or 4 sponsor deal appears, I will replace the finishing one. So cross fingers, and don't bring me bad luck Taavi ;)
  
  
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   ‘Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer’. Revelations 6: 1-2
CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
08:30 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  Sorry, I missed the next week thing. Wish you have a good deal.
The Ullrichs
Posts: 205

Posted at:
08:45 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 29/1-2016
Status: Offline

  My second sponsor is max 2. And my first is Max 4. I did get a 3rd sponsor
CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
08:52 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  Armstrong vs. Ullrich revival.
  
  Bu this seems like bug.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
08:55 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Oh well, seems I won once again ;) Don't worry @Taavi, I didn't made myself clear first time, so had to explain it better. Not easy to reply when it's almost 4 am.
  
  
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   ‘Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer’. Revelations 6: 1-2
  
Universal Soup
Posts: 177

Posted at:
09:38 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 10/3-2019
Status: Offline

  Not really about having to do with being clear ( clean ). You left out that one of your sponsors will expire, so of course if you have three, you go back to two so there is always room. Ulrichs case is the proper situation where the first one said max 4, second one 2 and now he has been able to get a 3rd sponsor.
  
  So Ulrich won. You did make yourself clear but just left (intentionally) a part out. I'm almost going to agree with the person whose PR comments you have been deleting tbh.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
09:43 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  You better don't agree with him, my friend, he was beetching only, no real contribution or good energy to me. If I am lucky, I will stay at three. What Ulrich did, is called bug ''that is so great that you can't believe it'' ;)
  
  
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   ‘Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer’. Revelations 6: 1-2

Last edit by USA Postal Services at 09:44 21/3-2020.

Team WonderDee
Posts: 5408

Posted at:
10:30 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 13/7-2008
Status: Online

  Helleman Aero Company
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 28
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Days left: 28
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
10:37 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Official Wildcard Post
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 8.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 21
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Days left: 7
  
  
  Red Balloon Travel Agency
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 7.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 28
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Days left: 21
  
  
  Bacilieri Pottery
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 5.000 $ per week
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 4
  
  
  Days left: 35
  
  
  The sponsors I have
  
  
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   ‘Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.” And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer’. Revelations 6: 1-2
Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
10:40 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  The being able to hire a third sponsor while having a max of 2 is of course a bug. Nick is looking in to it. I don't know what Nick will do once he fixed it, bit expect the third sponsor to be removed.
  That doesn't mean anything for people like Lance who have three legit sponsors of course.
  -----------------------------
  
  OCM Awards Chairman/Admin
  
  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2

Last edit by Schiavi di Don at 10:40 21/3-2020.

English Sprinting Team
Official Supporter
Posts: 3703

Posted at:
10:44 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/3-2012
Status: Offline

  Should of come here first to see if someone had already tried, but done the same. Got a max 2, 3 and 4 at the same time
  
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  I WILL get past Finz in the Most Post Ranking!
ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
Posts: 185

Posted at:
11:42 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 5/6-2019
Status: Offline

  The Scout News Agency
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 10.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Days left: 21
  
  OCM Bank
  
  This sponsorship proposal gives your team 50.000 in 4 weeks.
  
  Duration: 28
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Days left: 21
  
  This is what I have.
  I got offered 5000 per week but declined.
  I won't get a sponsorship which offers me less than what i have now.
Alx4475
Posts: 32

Posted at:
17:35 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 24/5-2019
Status: Online

  Hi!!!
  
  The first thing to apologize for my English Google Translate.
  
  My sponsor is 2 max, but I have been able to hire up to 3.
  
  Coincidence is that Sponsors 2 and 3 end the same day.
  
  Could this be the cause of the error?
  
  Good luck to all
  
  ------------------------------
  
   Alea Iacta Est
   Julio César 49 a.C.
PetrolGas
Posts: 50

Posted at:
18:17 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/11-2019
Status: Online

  Maybe it’s possible to have 5 sponsors? We shall see in a couple of weeks
English Sprinting Team
Official Supporter
Posts: 3703

Posted at:
18:25 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/3-2012
Status: Offline

  Hi guys, see Dons post above. Nick is looking into it and for a fix to the bug
  
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  I WILL get past Finz in the Most Post Ranking!
PetrolGas
Posts: 50

Posted at:
18:31 21/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/11-2019
Status: Online

  Before the tour? It was just s bad joke :-)
team futerko
Posts: 162

Posted at:
19:21 22/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 28/8-2016
Status: Online

  so right now it seems that the best deal is the one that gives your team 25.000 $ per week.
  
  Duration: 90
  Max sponsors: 2 - seems like +2 rather than 2 max...
  
  so if you got that 3 times, that is 12 payments of 75k = 900k a season! :o
  
  (...that's enough to buy a decent sprinter!)

Last edit by team futerko at 19:24 22/3-2020.

Moose Machines
Posts: 164

Posted at:
20:26 22/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/3-2019
Status: Online

  Sadly, it means max 2 for me - I've got the £25k per week for 90 days sponsor, and one other, and I'm unable to accept a 3rd sponsor currently
Team WonderDee
Posts: 5408

Posted at:
15:53 23/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 13/7-2008
Status: Online

  I just notice the sponsors is now shown on the team page: http://www.cyclingsimulator.com/team/Team_WonderDee
Fissa
Posts: 862

Posted at:
12:11 25/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 16/9-2013
Status: Offline

  Today, I've just been able to sign a third sponsor (Sommerifrankrig.dk) while I have a sponsor (TT Center Shopping Mall) that doesn't allow more than 2.

Last edit by Fissa at 12:12 25/3-2020.

Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
20:27 25/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  Nick has fixed the bug this evening (he fixed another one earlier this week already). So fingers crossed that the feature is now bug-free. :)
  If any of you is able to hire more than they should after today, please tell. The quick communication really helped out with making sure the bug was fixed quickly.
  
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KRV Rapid Habsburg
Posts: 548

Posted at:
12:25 26/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 13/9-2014
Status: Offline

  Looks like I've been lucky with my first sponsors.
  
  
  TT Center Shopping Mall
  2.000 $ per day.
  Duration: 35
  Max sponsors: 3
  
  
  Ping Pong PR Management
  25.000 $ per week.
  Duration: 90
  Max sponsors: 2
English Sprinting Team
Official Supporter
Posts: 3703

Posted at:
10:48 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/3-2012
Status: Offline

  Got my 4th Sponsor through, (first one I accepted was Max 2) and it’s letting me accept sponsor and then brings up the confirm line to click. I haven’t clicked it as I don’t want to have 4 sponsors when I should only have 2.
  
  More than happy to do it and Nick if you want to delete the ones I shouldn’t have after I test it? Let me know :)
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Last edit by English Sprinting Team at 10:50 28/3-2020.

Schiavi di Don
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Posts: 4858

Posted at:
11:02 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  Please test it Micheal, because it should say that you are unable to accept it after you clicked accept.
  And since it's a test phase it's better to be sure things work.
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  Proverbs 29:2

Last edit by Schiavi di Don at 11:03 28/3-2020.

USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
11:07 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  I tested it early. It worked, got an offer of 1 free scout per day, max 2 sponsors so I tried to see and said I was unable. Guess the bug is going down.
  
  
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CC Est
Posts: 611

Posted at:
11:16 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 14/6-2014
Status: Offline

  I can confirm. My max is 2 and I could not get third one. Tried yesterday.
English Sprinting Team
Official Supporter
Posts: 3703

Posted at:
11:32 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 8/3-2012
Status: Offline

  Yep, says “you don’t have anymore room available” :)
  
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Team Guy
Posts: 323

Posted at:
12:47 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 12/9-2014
Status: Online

  Did anyone take the 10% TS boost? Does it mean you get a one time boost of 10% for all riders? Or once per week if you visit the sponsor page etc.? And click on each riders profile to apply it?
Schiavi di Don
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Posts: 4858

Posted at:
12:51 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  It is a one time 10% boost for all riders. And you can click on the riders profile to get it, but TS increases also automatically trigger when a rider races. So that is not necessary.
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
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Last edit by Schiavi di Don at 12:52 28/3-2020.

Australian Warlord
Posts: 1420

Posted at:
13:23 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 28/8-2011
Status: Offline

  I don't get the explanation of the TS boost. Are you suggesting that cyclists will get a one time TS boost that stays with them, because that doesn't make sense. I would have thought that cyclists would have a 10% TS boost for as long as the sponsor is there, and completely disappears when the sponsorship expires.
USA Postal Services
Posts: 704

Posted at:
13:28 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 18/2-2018
Status: Online

  Of course not. The TS boost only works when sponsor stills available. Once its over, no more boost.
  
  
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Schiavi di Don
Administrator
Posts: 4858

Posted at:
13:30 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 22/3-2014
Status: Offline

  The boost is permanent, as is every TS boost. TS decline will still happen as well of course. So the effects of the boost will be much less after a while.
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Alpine
Posts: 2281

Posted at:
15:24 28/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 15/9-2014
Status: Online

  The boost is ten percentage points consistently to all riders for the period of the sponsorship. Not a one time uplift. At least that is what I am seeing from having it the last week.

Last edit by Alpine at 15:25 28/3-2020.

chupacabra
Posts: 66

Posted at:
12:17 30/3-2020 GMT

Registered: 2/9-2016
Status: Offline

  It might be because my ts reset 30 days after some transfers, but I could swear I got a second 10% boost by refreshing the sponsor page after one week.

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