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Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup
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00:09 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Hello everyone and happy New Year!
  
  I have not been very active lately with development, and I certainly want to get more back on track.
  
  Today I was fixing a few minor bugs reported and minor adjustsments here and there.
  
  With the recent retirement of Patryk Drozdowski, I think it is worth to take a moment honoring this rider who achieved something I find to be the most incredible I have seen in the history of OCM.
  
  That is quite something. We have seen many great accomplishments throughout the history of OCM. I thought that the achievement of Sandro Montelbano would never be topped, but looking at Patryk Drozdowski, it is safe to say that this has been done - with lenghts.
  
  Patryk Drozdowski won the biggest tour in the OCM calendar no less than 8 times - 5 of them in a consecutive row. Adding to this, he also finished 2 twice. Naturally, you do not achieve this without brilliant stage performances, but Patryk Drozdowski did much more. A total of 21 stages won in Germany Tour is also a testimony to the great achievement. He won the youth competition thrice and managed to become World Champion while he was still contesting for youth competitions in a season where he not that many days before stood on top of the GC podium in Germany.
  
  I therefore wanted to honor this rider properly. But how to honor a rider who stands out that much?
  
  I decided to bring in a new racing concept also known from real life cycling - introducing the
  
  Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup
  
  The cup is a competition that is somewhere inbetween a tour and a one day race. Basically, it is a tour, but rather than competing on time, riders compete on points. They score points on each stage.
  
  The Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup consists of 3 races.
  
  Stage 1 is a time trial and awards 45 points to the winner, 35 points to the second place, 30 points to the third place, 25 points to the fourth place, and so on.
  
  Stage 2 is a tough climbing stage and awards 45 points to the winner, 35 points to the second place, 30 points to the third place, 25 points to the fourth place, and so on.
  
  Stage 3 is an all-round stage benetting those with great downhilling abilities much like Patryk Drozdowsk himself and awards 50 points to the winner, 40 points to the second place, 35 points to the third place, 20 points to the fourth place, and so on.
  
  The cup is in Division 1.
  
  
  If the Patryk Drozdowsk Trophy Cup becomes a success, we may see more organizers focusing on the cup-format for the future in addition to the existing tours.
  
  I hope you will enjoy this new feature, and I personally look forward to the first edition of the cup next season.
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick





Ello Ello
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00:14 10/1-2019 GMT

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  interesting
  
  http://www.cyclingsimulator.com/?page=Tour&tour=Patryk+Drozdowski+Trophy+Cup
  
  link for those who want to look
Hub City Cycling
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00:48 10/1-2019 GMT

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  The placement on the Division 1 calendar was well done, there's no other Classics/Tours between Days 22 and 40. This looks like it will go off on Days 30-31.
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08:06 10/1-2019 GMT

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  I must say i'm a little disapointed to read that someone did better than Sandro, but records are meant to be broken :D
  
  Nice idea you had ! Hope i will be able to join this new tour soon.
  
  
  Yann
  
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08:13 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Hi Nick. Good to see you around and thanks for this addition to the game. Wish you the best for 2019.
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08:14 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Nice to see that there is another great goal to go for it …..
  
  (this one is not for me, I shall wait for possible a sprint cup)
  
  Such a legend earns an achievement.
  (3 wins or so, or win several legend races)
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09:15 10/1-2019 GMT

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  What Lamme Frans said. :)
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09:38 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Nick nice to see you back!
  
  This Cup competition looks a great idea! It looks perfect for sprinting Tours! Fighting for bonus seconds in the NL Tour is always... strange... This would make this much more interesting!
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri

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09:42 10/1-2019 GMT

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  +1 Yuri !!!
  
  
  Yann
  
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10:03 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Interesting idea, looking forward to participate.
  
  I understand your feeling Yann, I also do not like to read that someone did better than Farruco;-)
Alpine
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10:08 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Great addition, but even better to see you post and adding something to the game Nick!
  
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10:27 10/1-2019 GMT

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  By the way, the points distribution for all stages should be present on the stage's pages. It doesn't make sense not to know it in detail in my opinion...
  A small description on how the cup works also makes sense on the Cup's page and stages description is up to us the community :)
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
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Posted at:
10:31 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Thanks for the nice words guys.
  
  There's definitely a sprinting cup coming for div 1. With a Germany Tour sign-up pattern, since the lower half of div 1 already has Nederlandse Tour.
  
  And then I plan on adding a cup to each division. The plan is that the cup will have the kind of focus that is not already covered by tours in the particular division.
  
  Also, I hope I can make a more steady return to development. I miss writing code a lot.
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick
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10:33 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Yeah, Yuri, that is coming for sure.
  
  But I was heading for bed and realised there might be someone noticing it already today, so I wanted to announce it before leaving it there, even though there are still a few things left to add; i.e. point tables. That's why I just described the competition here as a temporary solution.
  
  Best regards,
  OCM Developer Nick
Alpine
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10:35 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Nice. For the sprinting cup in top div, how about having an extra incentive that the first rider to win it three times gets his name on the cup?
Alpine
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10:36 10/1-2019 GMT

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  ...or just call it The Don for his contributions to the game
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12:24 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Good to see u active again. Hopefully you find the time to add the last achivements too.
  
  This 18 is still to be added: https://ibb.co/n7enpf
  
  Edit: Let me know if you want any design help with the new cups. :) Shirts or Trophies.

Last edit by Team WonderDee at 17:08 10/1-2019.

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  Anyone thinking about a special jersey design for this cup? Or a special trophy ;)
ABK
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14:38 10/1-2019 GMT

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  So Alpine that would be the Hamster Cup
  https://giphy.com/gifs/cup-hamster-rhxqYHRmnDdHG
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15:22 10/1-2019 GMT

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  @Lance
  
  I'm 100% sure Christian is already thinking about it. ;)
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15:26 10/1-2019 GMT

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  I have a couple trophy and jerseys at home, it could fit the achievements ;)
Alpine
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16:39 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Yeah exactly ABK. hehe
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17:03 10/1-2019 GMT

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  @ABK lol
  
  Happy 2019 Nick, good to see you're still around!
  
  I like the concept of this cup, and even though I completely understand it because it's in the context of a recently retired OCM legend, I'm a little disappointed to see it's another update in which only the top managers will participate. The lower divisions are just as important imo, especially to keep new managers aboard.
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17:13 10/1-2019 GMT

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  @Mal:
  
  Nick wrote "There's definitely a sprinting cup coming for div 1. With a Germany Tour sign-up pattern, since the lower half of div 1 already has Nederlandse Tour.
  
   And then I plan on adding a cup to each division. The plan is that the cup will have the kind of focus that is not already covered by tours in the particular division. "
  
  So it will be cups in the lower divisions too.
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17:17 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Not on all, I don't think there will be a lot of teams in Div 10 or 11 to ride, even in Div 9.
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17:22 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Yes, there is no point of that. But I was not think about 9-11.div when I wrote lower divisions.
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17:23 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Yes, in Div 8 there is normal activity. From that place I would put the cups/tours
  
  If i understand well, there will be tour/sprinting tours?

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18:25 10/1-2019 GMT

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  tours now start in div 7, I guess a cup starts at 6 or 7 too.
Dodge
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19:01 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Ooh shiny.
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20:07 10/1-2019 GMT

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  ayeee nice way to start 2019
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20:21 10/1-2019 GMT

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  You got mail Nick ;)
  
  @Llotyhy: Yep, thats right ;)

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CC Est
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20:54 10/1-2019 GMT

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  I am glad to see such news!
  
  Anyway, regarding those other "new" tours. SC in several cases are dominated by non-sprinters. Valparaiso is one example. One may call it feature, but I would call it bug. Bug that can be easily fixed by changing points.
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20:56 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Whats wrong with hillers / hill sprinter get a shoot on a jersey too? The hill tours is often won by TT riders. Last Valparaiso was won by a sprinter.
CC Est
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21:03 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Try to look more details than just last one. 3 times out of 5 it was won by GC rider.
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  Yes, but its depends on riders in TF etc. Hetland won the first year, without.
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21:30 10/1-2019 GMT

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  In the last eight editions of the Vuelta a Espana a climber won the points classification six times, must be a bug as well. ;)
  
  
CC Est
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21:37 10/1-2019 GMT

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  I talk about sprinting classification. Sprinting.
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21:39 10/1-2019 GMT

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  I still fail to see why sprinters have to win the sprinting classification all the time in all the tours.
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  +1 Llotyhy
CC Est
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21:42 10/1-2019 GMT

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  Hog Bay - you also fail to see that I never said that sprinters have to win the sprinting classification all the time in all the tours.
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09:38 11/1-2019 GMT

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  If you want to claim a bug here I think it is the name. Should be changed to the Points Classification.
CC Est
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09:52 11/1-2019 GMT

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  Yes Alpine, that's one option.
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  Agree Alpine. Points Classification would be more correct.
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  IMO the sprint/points classification should be able to be won by Sprinters and Punchers (Hill sprinters)
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18:10 11/1-2019 GMT

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  A HC should be conquered by a sprinter from time to time (Jalabert Lagos, 1996)
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22:40 12/1-2019 GMT

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  I wish i could make Droz and Farruco 10 years younger again, i miss their rivalry....
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  Nice to see you back Nick. Great addition to the game. Really excited for the sprinting cup.
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  Thomas, I have the same with Royce and Armando. In particular at Ruoen - Paris, that was an epic streak.
  
  Both could have earned more wins and pts if the other wasn't around but it was good fun competing. I guess we still are but father time has caught us.
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  Always nice to test out a new concept in OCM!
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  Will there be a YC? Or only a GC?
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Alpine
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  If there is a YC, it be a separate ranking among the riders that qualify for the category.
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  No YC by the look of it. Its a mix between the classics and the tours. I have sent Nick a suggestion of a trohpy to win. Hopefully he likes it, and uploads it.
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  Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup was announced on the 9th of January and the sign up is today. This is 62 days after the announcement.
  
  If we wait another 62 days for the sprinting cup to be established, the sign up will on day 84 and so the Cup would start on day 2 (next season).
  
  Isn't it time to start thinking about implementing it? If we want it this season, we should at least start thinking on a start date so as not to jeopardize the team's plannings. On thing's for sure, we had more time to prepare for the PDT Cup than we will have for this sprinting cup if it gets established this season...
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
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12:42 12/3-2019 GMT

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  Only just seen this. Good to read that similar races will be implemented for other divisions too, not just Div 1.
  
  I hope Nick you also have your eye on the World Championships. (Yes, I will never stop banging on about it). A real one day World Championships, perhaps integrated in to the National Teams side, or perhaps allowing teams from Div 3 downwards to qualify is a must.
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12:47 12/3-2019 GMT

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  @Yuri
  
  The SP Cup already has a set date, which is day 56-57.
  It depends on if Nick finds the time to create it if it will be held this season. The intention is to do so though.
  
  
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12:52 12/3-2019 GMT

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  Ok Don thanks, didn't knew it.
  
  Well, there's no time to restore TF anymore, but we were informed about this possibility beforehand, so no problem.
  
  Still, it's important to know it. I imagine people are targeting it this season and by doing so weren't able to use TF for Norwich-London.
  All I want with this is to say that it's important to know this kind of stuff.
  
  Enjoy responsibly,
  Yuri
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12:55 12/3-2019 GMT

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  Yeah, it is. 100% agree.
   I did announce the day on which the SP Cup was set during the calendar changes btw, but I can understand that was easy to miss.
  
  
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Alpine
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13:02 12/3-2019 GMT

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  Any word on uploading Christian's suggested trophy?
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13:09 12/3-2019 GMT

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  No word, but I can only assume that Nick will love it and implement it as well, since he has done so with all Christians amazing jersey/trophy designs so far. :)
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Team WonderDee
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14:41 12/3-2019 GMT

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  Thanks for your kind words Don.
  
  Nick have seen the design, but to make the trophy show he need to change some codes. Since the cup is a «tour» and trophies are for classics.
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   Is the 4th place correctly Don? or should that not 30?
   Stage 3 is an all-round stage benetting those with great downhilling abilities much like Patryk Drozdowsk himself and awards 50 points to the winner, 40 points to the second place, 35 points to the third place, 20 points to the fourth place, and so on.
Schiavi di Don
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18:32 19/3-2019 GMT

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  I am not sure, Nick made the point division here, so he might have used this distribution. Probably should be 30 indeed.
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
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Flanders Fields
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  Where is the little box with the point distribution ? Can't find it anywhere.
Schiavi di Don
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14:46 20/3-2019 GMT

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  Because the points are a replacement of time differences, I don't think the tour page format actuality able to show them. I'll try and check that with Nick.
  
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  'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.'
  Proverbs 29:2
Team WonderDee
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19:20 21/3-2019 GMT

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  Just a small thing. The points of the overall winner should be shown. :) Its missing since in normal tour it would have been 0 sec. So hopefully you can change the codes Nick :)
mapei bianchi
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19:51 7/5-2019 GMT

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  Do the top 3 get wildcards for next season?
Schiavi di Don
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20:56 7/5-2019 GMT

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  My guess would be they do, but I do not know it for sure. I will check it with Nick.
  
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  Proverbs 29:2

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